Originally Posted by
googe
I actually have no idea what SportEL has said so I should probably qualify that a bit. Although obviously yes some people have died from it, that’s not really my issue. I knew one of the cases from WA personally that was recorded in VAERS.
I am on the pro-choice side. I do not care one bit if someone chooses to get it or not but anyone supporting passports and mandates is a giant fucking moron, in my very humble opinion. The misinformation about covid seems to be as bad as the misinformation about the vaccines. Canada is being shockingly draconian here and it’s a bit surreal to watch from the outside. Like you guys are off the deep end even compared to the most progressive, most restrictive states in the US. Australia is straight up bonkers.
I am not afraid of the vaccines and am the furthest thing from antivax. I almost certainly have more vaccines than anyone here unless they travel to developing countries. I even got my flu shot and do every year. I am 100% pro vax but I have not yet chosen to get the covid vaccine and probably won’t at this point.
And no, none of this is based on retarded facebook conspiracy memes. I get the impression that folks are conflating well-informed takes with the crazies just like what happened with the lab leak shit. I knew about that like 6 months early but couldn’t talk about it because at the time people thought any mention of it must have been based on the Q anon shit. To this day it amazes me how partisan blindness caused so many people to dismiss what was stupidly obvious. It took Jon Stewart pointing this out for most people on Team Left to snap out of it.
Anyway, I am comfortable that I am on solid ground here but it’s easier to let it shake out than die on a hill fighting True Believers. I have nothing against folks taking it and am still open to it myself until someone tries to force me to (lolol ur gonna get covid and die to pwn the libs, ok idiot - save it).
At least most folks here know I’m certainly no right winger, but good lord the TDSers in Seattle are something else. My Alberta friends think I’m super left, my Seattle friends suspect me of being a MAGA sympathizer. It’s like everyone has brain damage and can’t compute the idea of anyone not aligning purely with the caricatured orthodoxy of either side…on something that isn’t actually the least bit political to begin with.
For real though, I would take a tube in my throat before I let someone ask for my fucking vaccine papers to travel or watch hockey based on a mandate that is full of trivially disprovable rationale. If you recall, I called folks out for not wearing masks in the early days when we didn’t know shit about the virus and masks were an easy measure, but policymakers are consistently way behind the actual science every step of the way here.
At least they are finally looking into the menstruation shit now. It’s at the same phase that myocarditis was. You know, the thing that was a conspiracy theory, then a total coincidence, then no causal link, then ok yeah but it’s super rare, then ok people under 30 don’t get that one at all anymore, etc…
It’s like they are so intent on not possibly scaring anybody that they refuse to own up to the actual level of uncertainty and revert to silly social pressure arguments where there is no science to support their goals. The censorship of actual reasonable adult conversation because we apparently can’t be trusted with the accurate messaging is something I never imagined we would see.
I know a ton of people who had it, including unvaxed people as well as double vaxed double masked people who bragged to everyone who would listen about how good of a citizen they are. The vaccines are kind of shit honestly. Funny enough I know several uberpro vaxers who did get significant side effects but refused to talk about them because they didn’t want people to think they were a republican antivaxer.
If I do get a vaccine, which I will only do if the coercion isn’t a factor or the risk changes somehow, I am absolutely not telling anybody or showing anybody any fucking papers or QR codes. Masks are pretty dumb in most situations but that’s easy to comply with and not a hill to die on. It’s honestly not worth the histrionics people are letting out because of they think someone should or shouldn’t wear a mask.
The real pandemic is the loss of nuance and the divisive retardation