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    Previously, in this thread, we talked about how current fleet of Abrams tanks were nearing end of life. Donating those, plus 50% more for "parts" would have been such a clear win for everyone. Then they could have spent that money with the contractors to build whatever next gen tank they have planned.

    Net spending would have been similar, but capabilities would ha e increased.

    Now, money will be spent to scrap those Abrams tanks, money spent on new Abrams tanks for the Ukraine, and money spent very soon on next gen tanks.

    Total outlay is probably 4x when all said and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Previously, in this thread, we talked about how current fleet of Abrams tanks were nearing end of life. Donating those, plus 50% more for "parts" would have been such a clear win for everyone. Then they could have spent that money with the contractors to build whatever next gen tank they have planned.

    Net spending would have been similar, but capabilities would ha e increased.

    Now, money will be spent to scrap those Abrams tanks, money spent on new Abrams tanks for the Ukraine, and money spent very soon on next gen tanks.

    Total outlay is probably 4x when all said and done.
    Gov't spending is a net contributor to the economy, comrade.

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    I'm much less hardline than most. I don't even object to the scale of government spending, usually. But I have strong philosophical objections to the details of many government programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Previously, in this thread, we talked about how current fleet of Abrams tanks were nearing end of life. Donating those, plus 50% more for "parts" would have been such a clear win for everyone. Then they could have spent that money with the contractors to build whatever next gen tank they have planned.

    Net spending would have been similar, but capabilities would ha e increased.

    Now, money will be spent to scrap those Abrams tanks, money spent on new Abrams tanks for the Ukraine, and money spent very soon on next gen tanks.

    Total outlay is probably 4x when all said and done.
    And as previously mentioned, the US non-export Abrams all have classified systems and DU armour, which Congress is likely never going to approve being donated to a non-NATO nation. I agree I'd love to see them over there hunting T90s but it's a pipe dream at present.

    The donation that would cause the greatest increase in UAF warfighting ability with the smallest outlay is the US's 400,000-ton stockpile of cluster munitions (MLRS, 155mm) that are currently slated for scrapping - but that, too is a political problem (UXO bad!) despite the war zone already having been saturated by Russion cluster munitions already.

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    I will admit I a bad at politics. I'm not terrible at navagsting beuracratic processes, but I'm too simple minded to come up with new ones that meet political objectives.

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    The Russians are complete and utter morons.

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    Yup. The Abrams the US promised will be built without the fancy stuff. We are looking a year away.

    Meanwhile, I just heard on CNN, despite the Russian meat grinding Machine slaughtering Ukranians at an insane rate (160k dead, 400k wounded), and steadily taking land, Solidar etc, CNN says Russia is about to lose with 14 Nazi tanks coming in 3 months.
    MAGA = My Ass Got Arrested.

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    North America gives zero fucks about dead Ukrainians or dead ruskies, both of which look equally expendable.

    Other countries armed forces dying is a net positive for USA, and as a byproduct, canada.

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    Holy fuck, is Toma back again? I thought its medicine got dosed correctly and he gave up here.
    Oh I bet it's saying saying great things! Super tempted to peak off ignore list... LoL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Holy fuck, is Toma back again? I thought its medicine got dosed correctly and he gave up here.
    Oh I bet it's saying saying great things! Super tempted to peak off ignore list... LoL!!
    Every medicine eventually builds up a tolerance.

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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    MAGA = My Ass Got Arrested.

    Beware the passive aggressive Mean Girls. Vengie, Killramos, Penismightier, buster, jrscoolude, etc who bully others into their circle jerk opinion, serially negging you, while claiming they ignore you and don't obsess over you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Holy fuck, is Toma back again? I thought its medicine got dosed correctly and he gave up here.
    Oh I bet it's saying saying great things! Super tempted to peak off ignore list... LoL!!
    Hey, smalldickenergy. You don't have me on ignore, you couldnt neg rep me on a regular basis (when the system times out and lets you) if you did.

    Mental issues. I think so.
    Last edited by Yolobimmer; 02-02-2023 at 02:22 PM.
    MAGA = My Ass Got Arrested.

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    PSA. High school is not a popularity contest little girls

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    Mo. M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Mo. M?
    drunk again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    drunk again?
    and looking to score...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirebob View Post
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    and looking to score...
    Even if she it was ready to go
    I (wouldn't be) kinda hard

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    Cccccombooooo breaker!
    MAGA = My Ass Got Arrested.

    Beware the passive aggressive Mean Girls. Vengie, Killramos, Penismightier, buster, jrscoolude, etc who bully others into their circle jerk opinion, serially negging you, while claiming they ignore you and don't obsess over you.

    PSA. High school is not a popularity contest little girls

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    With the west demonizing and alienating so many, Russia, China, Iran, India, south Amerocan countries, Africa etc. Basically anyone that questions US authoritarianism.... how long will the west survive?

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/05...y-cooperation/
    Last edited by Yolobimmer; 02-03-2023 at 04:05 PM.
    MAGA = My Ass Got Arrested.

    Beware the passive aggressive Mean Girls. Vengie, Killramos, Penismightier, buster, jrscoolude, etc who bully others into their circle jerk opinion, serially negging you, while claiming they ignore you and don't obsess over you.

    PSA. High school is not a popularity contest little girls

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