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    Quote Originally Posted by ragu View Post
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    While west was playing games across different countries across the pond, Russia and China were building. When west was locking in people and printing like crazy, Russia and China were building.

    Enter 2022 with max debt, low energy security for west.

    Perfect for Putin as he supplies gas for Europe + "free" world is ruled by Biden, Boris, Justin (all with low approvals) = best opportunity for Russia.

    Meanwhile, China watches this with great interest re: Taiwan. This could impact US supply chains too.

    In short, no energy/ cheap parts from across the pond = bad for west.

    Unfortunately, 250yrs is an empire's life and its led by the likes of our leaders near the climax. West has no cards left.
    The United States isn't an empire. Never has been.

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    Buster, you'd fit in well with todays politicians. Sitting on your hands and all.

    We should be going gangbusters sanctions on the Ruskies. Western leaders are too spineless.
    I don't like making other peoples' wars my wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    The United States isn't an empire. Never has been.

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    I don't like making other peoples' wars my wars.
    Uhhhhh.. Usa not an empire?

    ... monroe doctrine??

    ... manifest destiny??

    ... wars in iraq, afghanistan, syria, vietnam, korea, libya, etc...
    Tap, Rack, BANG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledan View Post
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    Uhhhhh.. Usa not an empire?

    ... monroe doctrine??

    ... manifest destiny??

    ... wars in iraq, afghanistan, syria, vietnam, korea, libya, etc...
    No, none of those are what I would consider empire-building exercises. They weren't trying to expand their territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    The United States isn't an empire. Never has been.

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    I don't like making other peoples' wars my wars.
    If you don't stop Putin now, who's to say southern alberta isn't next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    If you don't stop Putin now, who's to say southern alberta isn't next?
    I heard someone say yesterday that if we don't stop Putin right this minute, then China was going to invade Australia.

    People need to calm the fuck down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    If you don't stop Putin now, who's to say southern alberta isn't next?

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    Came back to ogle 2Legit2Quit wife's buns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    If you don't stop Putin now, who's to say southern alberta isn't next?
    As if there is anything we could do about either situation

    I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    As if there is anything we could do about either situation

    I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.
    Justin could put out a strongly worded tweet Kent.
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    Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    So do people care about Ukraine any more than they did about Chechnya?
    Personally, I care about anyone who are occupied by external forces. It's just not a condition anyone should be subjected to. Think about what the kids in Syria have gone through? It's just brutal.

    That includes places like Palestine, where Western media has turned a blind eye. Though that conflict - while long-lasting - isn't currently anywhere close to what we are seeing now in Ukraine.

    I especially care if:
    - The country being attacked is linked by geography or ideology to others in the area like Ukraine is to both "Western" European nations as well as the breakaway republics. This constitutes a *required* military response by allies (ie: Canada) should Putin continue his aggressions after Ukraine falls
    - The country had no prior beef with the attacker
    - The aggressor is the one of the largest nuclear powers in the world
    - The leader of the attacking country cannot properly justify his actions... making him an international loose cannon. He also goes against what I believe the majority of Russians actually want - which is dangerous in itself when such a person has no accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloubek View Post
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    Personally, I care about anyone who are occupied by external forces. It's just not a condition anyone should be subjected to. Think about what the kids in Syria have gone through? It's just brutal.

    That includes places like Palestine, where Western media has turned a blind eye. Though that conflict - while long-lasting - isn't currently anywhere close to what we are seeing now in Ukraine.

    I especially care if:
    - The country being attacked is linked by geography or ideology to others in the area like Ukraine is to both "Western" European nations as well as the breakaway republics. This constitutes a *required* military response by allies (ie: Canada) should Putin continue his aggressions after Ukraine falls
    - The country had no prior beef with the attacker
    - The aggressor is the one of the largest nuclear powers in the world
    - The leader of the attacking country cannot properly justify his actions... making him an international loose cannon. He also goes against what I believe the majority of Russians actually want - which is dangerous in itself when such a person has no accountability.
    Life is going to be long and disappointing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kloubek View Post
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    Personally, I care about anyone who are occupied by external forces. It's just not a condition anyone should be subjected to. Think about what the kids in Syria have gone through? It's just brutal.

    That includes places like Palestine...
    Where I stopped reading
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    The United States isn't an empire. Never has been.

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    I don't like making other peoples' wars my wars.
    Fucking 95% of Canadians couldn't point out Ukraine on a map.
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    I say stupid shit all the time.
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    Number seems low.

    I'm not sure how many Canadians could find Canada on a map.

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    Lmao
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    No, none of those are what I would consider empire-building exercises. They weren't trying to expand their territory.
    Manifest destiny was explicitly about expanding territory.

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    Last time I took geography, Gorbachev was the shit.

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