UCP Leadership. Who has your Vote?

[DonJuan]

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Go down to High River and ask about Danielle Smith. It's not a great opinion down there. She recently sold her home in High River too. There are far too many stories of her on the CBE trustees that are too far out there. There's a reason why she got the name trash can Dani while on there.

I have a low opinion of politicians to begin with, but she takes it a bit lower and is not suited for this job.

In for the tea spilling

[Cagare]

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what were her issues on the CBE?

No beans to spill. https://daveberta.ca/2022/08/daniell...-of-education/

That guy blogged the whole thing. The one thing he neglected to mention, although I am not sure it was public record but it was Smith who dug through the trash after a board meeting to collect notes being passed around about her, which is where the nickname came from. That blogger is correct that it wasn't simply her fault, but she was part of the trustees that the Province had to step in and fire. The scary thing is these people are still working on the public dime in various roles. Her track record on the CBE has been questioned but the media doesn't seem to want to track her about it either though? Strange because she has worked for a few media outlets after both unsuccessful stints into politics.

She has a hard time working with other people and she cannot collaborate at all. She just generally has a really poor attitude, which is why you can see all the other candidates saying her ideas are terrible. I am not encouraged when potential members of the UCP caucus get together and have such negative things to say about her either.

This is the type of situation we would find if she were leader in that room I truly believe. Which is not good for anyone.

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The other beans are that she is generally un-liked in High River. Oh and I guess she has greasy hair?

[Buster]

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No beans to spill. https://daveberta.ca/2022/08/daniell...-of-education/

That guy blogged the whole thing. The one thing he neglected to mention, although I am not sure it was public record but it was Smith who dug through the trash after a board meeting to collect notes being passed around about her, which is where the nickname came from. That blogger is correct that it wasn't simply her fault, but she was part of the trustees that the Province had to step in and fire. The scary thing is these people are still working on the public dime in various roles. Her track record on the CBE has been questioned but the media doesn't seem to want to track her about it either though? Strange because she has worked for a few media outlets after both unsuccessful stints into politics.

She has a hard time working with other people and she cannot collaborate at all. She just generally has a really poor attitude, which is why you can see all the other candidates saying her ideas are terrible. I am not encouraged when potential members of the UCP caucus get together and have such negative things to say about her either.

This is the type of situation we would find if she were leader in that room I truly believe. Which is not good for anyone.

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The other beans are that she is generally un-liked in High River. Oh and I guess she has greasy hair?

Her ideas are popular. I find it strange that a more palatable candidate has not tried to leverage the discontent in Alberta. If she is so bad, and yet might win because she is willing to rock the boat, then why don't some of these other empty suits try to steal some of that voter base?

[Cagare]

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Her ideas are popular. I find it strange that a more palatable candidate has not tried to leverage the discontent in Alberta. If she is so bad, and yet might win because she is willing to rock the boat, then why don't some of these other empty suits try to steal some of that voter base?

It's a really good question. I think other candidates have ideas and opinions around Provincial jurisdiction but fall short of the sovereignty rhetoric. Her position is so far down the line that it has obscured all media attention. This is a strategy in of itself, makes her the centre of the circus. It's a strategy that has worked for others in lots of things, good or bad news you just want them talking about you.

Aside from the Sovereignty Act do we know anything else she is proposing? Do we know anything else anyone else is proposing? For the general public, probably not. For the typical UCP member, probably not still?

[Buster]

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It's a really good question. I think other candidates have ideas and opinions around Provincial jurisdiction but fall short of the sovereignty rhetoric. Her position is so far down the line that it has obscured all media attention. This is a strategy in of itself, makes her the centre of the circus. It's a strategy that has worked for others in lots of things, good or bad news you just want them talking about you.

Aside from the Sovereignty Act do we know anything else she is proposing? Do we know anything else anyone else is proposing? For the general public, probably not. For the typical UCP member, probably not still?

What other issues are worth discussing?

Emergency wait times? (yawn)
Class sizes? (yawn)
Renaming mountains to reflect the sadness of the conquered? (yawn)

[Cagare]

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What other issues are worth discussing?

Emergency wait times? (yawn)
Class sizes? (yawn)
Renaming mountains to reflect the sadness of the conquered? (yawn)

Anything that we can actually have an impact on in the Province. But you are hitting on how the general populous views things. Makes us pretty easy to control just play the same card over and over again. The democrats sure showed that works really strong in the US.

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In the end Smith will contribute to a dysfunctional government, in which nothing of substance will really get done. That's the real issue for me.

[Buster]

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Anything that we can actually have an impact on in the Province. But you are hitting on how the general populous views things. Makes us pretty easy to control just play the same card over and over again. The democrats sure showed that works really strong in the US.

I think that provincial politics and the bureaucracy are so ossified, that the people who are not willing to rock the boat are just collecting paychecks and whatever pension they get nowadays. It seems a vote for anyone but smith is basically just rolling over to the status quo like a bunch of spineless losers. (Let's be honest, most of the unwashed masses are spineless losers).

[killramos]

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This person having any influence whatsoever over her decisions is not a good thing and if this is the type of person she will choose to surround herself with I will seriously question her sanity and leadership abilities.

We shall see.

I thought we were friends

[gwill]

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Anything that we can actually have an impact on in the Province. But you are hitting on how the general populous views things. Makes us pretty easy to control just play the same card over and over again. The democrats sure showed that works really strong in the US.

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In the end Smith will contribute to a dysfunctional government, in which nothing of substance will really get done. That's the real issue for me.

its dysfunctional already which is the problem so your contributing to keeping things the same.... I don't get how people like you see this as a good thing.

[Cagare]

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its dysfunctional already which is the problem so your contributing to keeping things the same.... I don't get how people like you see this as a good thing.

Did I say that it's a good thing? I am against making it even worse than it already is which is what her presence would do.

[dirtsniffer]

In the end, the only thing I want is to avoid another NDP government and I doubt Smith as leader can actually pull that off.

[vengie]

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I thought we were friends

You would be a much better choice than this person.
But I don't see you lowering yourself to a life of politics.

[ExtraSlow]

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In the end, the only thing I want is to avoid another NDP government and I doubt Smith as leader can actually pull that off.

I suspect this is where the majority of generally conservative voters will end up. HOWEVER, I don't know if that's how conservative party members will look at it. Some of them will vote most strongly for skydaddy candidates, some will vote for most angry candidate, and some will just vote against unpalatable frontrunners. That kind of thing really can lead to the Ed Stelmach effect, which is unfortunate.

[zechs]

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In the end, the only thing I want is to avoid another NDP government and I doubt Smith as leader can actually pull that off.

You can try the old Freeland thing of repeating things that aren't true until they are, but the polls currently have said otherwise for a while.

As long as Alberta isn't rocked by an economic downturn, Smith is fine to get past the NDP.

[dirtsniffer]

It was Mckenna who infamously said

...if you actually say it louder, we’ve learned in the House of Commons, if you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that is your talking point, people will totally believe it.”

The only thing Freeland has burned into my brain is "miiiiister speaaaaaker". That, and also that she was recently chased out of her hometown of GP.

[gwill]

it's a weird world that people live in who think sticking with the same old crap in alberta is what's best for AB...

Investment continues to leave ab, the federal govt continues to attack alberta at every turn and we can't get pipelines built. But let's vote to keep things the same because your afraid of change and what the alternative looks like... ya.. let's just continue to be shit on by the rest of canada.

[killramos]

This sounds like the ol’ “we just haven’t tried real socialism yet” bit

[Buster]

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This sounds like the ol’ “we just haven’t tried real socialism yet” bit

incorrect. Venezuela has tried it.

[ExtraSlow]

We haven't tried hard enough yet.

[gwill]

Article out todag mentioning Danielle smiths campaign raising more money than the ucp party and almost as much as the ndp.