G87 BMW M2 (porky)

[killramos]

It’s literally closer in size to a current X5 than the E30 you were so eager to compare it to lol

An X5 only takes up 14% more space on the road than this car, where’s an E30 takes up 16% less space.

Maybe bmw should make a 0 series considering they seem incapable of not gaining a new freshman 15 with every generation.

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Isn't BMW like VW now, where basically everything is using one modular architecture?

Apparently. Because EV’s or some nonsense.

[bjstare]

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It’s literally closer in size to a current X5 than the E30 you were so eager to compare it to lol

An X5 only takes up 14% more space on the road than this car, where’s an E30 takes up 16% less space.

Maybe bmw should make a 0 series considering they seem incapable of not gaining a new freshman 15 with every generation.

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Apparently. Because EV’s or some nonsense.

He was just comparing visual cues to the E30, don't be so difficult

It's not like "comparing to current cars on the market" is some sort of caveat... that's the only comparison one can make. The bar for comparison is what it is.

Unless a person is cross-shopping this with an E46 or E30, which is highly unlikely.

[killramos]

I should just buy an XM, if everything is going to weigh as much and be as big as an SUV might as well lean into it.

[max_boost]

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It's not perfection (hopefully the headlights are addressed with LCI) but it looks chiseled and buff. How many cars you going to see on the road with fender bulges like that? It's like the lovechild of an E30 M3 (protruding side skirts and bulged fenders) and a R34 GTR (big rectangular front openings).

Good photo comparison to E30 M3 here.

https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1961825

That E30 is so dope

[88CRX]

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How many cars you going to see on the road with fender bulges like that?

Bulging fenders are amazing!

Its the square front bumpers that ruin it.

[Ca_Silvia13]

The front end still looks off. Proportions maybe? I can't put my finger on it yet...

[Buster]

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Bulging fenders are amazing!

Its the square front bumpers that ruin it.

I kinda like the squared off look.

But killy is right, cars are so uninteresting right now, at least there is something to talk about. I really want to want cars...but it's all shit. We have the Z06, I guess...this M2 is okay. The Germans are producing super SUVs, based on luxo barge sedans, all built off "modular" platforms. The Japanese aren't doing anything interesting, as far as I can tell.

All of my predictions for the car industry turning into a cynical appliance industry are coming true.

[ExtraSlow]

Jeep just put an inline 6 into it's Wagoneer, so that's kinda sorta interesting, although clearly not an enthusiasts vehicle.

My personal opinion is that the only interesting cars left come with manual transmissions, so that's like 8 maybe.

[Ukyo8]

Don't actually think it looks horrible, my eye just needed to adjust to it for a few days.
Love the super wide body.

However the fact that it weights almost 4,000 lbs is just crazy, I'm sure they did a good job masking the weight... but damn that's heavy for such a tiny car, it almost weights as much as 2 NA6 Miatas!
I think it would be super rough on consumables such as tires and brakes for people that are planning to track these.

[JustinL]

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I kinda like the squared off look.

But killy is right, cars are so uninteresting right now, at least there is something to talk about. I really want to want cars...but it's all shit. We have the Z06, I guess...this M2 is okay. The Germans are producing super SUVs, based on luxo barge sedans, all built off "modular" platforms. The Japanese aren't doing anything interesting, as far as I can tell.

All of my predictions for the car industry turning into a cynical appliance industry are coming true.

We've been over this before... There are lots of awesome cars being built right now. From cheap sports cars like the GR86, to GT4, Boxster spyders, Manual transmission supra, Lotus has the new Emira platform. McLaren, Lambo, Ferrari are all at the top of their supercar game. Porsche is stuffing the GT3 engine in the GT4RS and the new GT3RS is the most bananas street legal track car to come out for a while. Konigsegg continues to do crazy things at the extreme end of the market. What exactly are you looking for in a car that you can't find?

You're just getting old dude and don't like cars as much as you used to

[ExtraSlow]

I heard music used to be better when we were young too @Buster .

[ercchry]

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I heard music used to be better when we were young too @Buster .

I heard nostalgia is for the weak

[Buster]

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We've been over this before... There are lots of awesome cars being built right now. From cheap sports cars like the GR86, to GT4, Boxster spyders, Manual transmission supra, Lotus has the new Emira platform. McLaren, Lambo, Ferrari are all at the top of their supercar game. Porsche is stuffing the GT3 engine in the GT4RS and the new GT3RS is the most bananas street legal track car to come out for a while. Konigsegg continues to do crazy things at the extreme end of the market. What exactly are you looking for in a car that you can't find?

You're just getting old dude and don't like cars as much as you used to

Most of those you can't buy, unless you are giving a dealer a handy under the table. The GR86 seems good, as does the manual supra. Z06 is good, this M2 is promising if imperfect. Lotus Emira is just an Evora rebadged...good car, but ancient. Ferrari is turning into ass as fast as they can, McLaren is doing okay, but can't seem to build a car properly and is going to be all V6 hybrids. Lambo's entire lineup is just rebadged Audis now.

Cars are changing a lot - it's not just me. The car market is going to behave a lot like the cell phone market soon.

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I heard music used to be better when we were young too @Buster .

I actually think music today is better than in the past, and access to music is a million times better. The music industry seems to have gone the opposite direction as the car industry, in a good way.

[DonJuan]

Looks like we all have Pagaini Utopias in our future. (metaphor and literal)

[max_boost]

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Most of those you can't buy, unless you are giving a dealer a handy under the table. The GR86 seems good, as does the manual supra. Z06 is good, this M2 is promising if imperfect. Lotus Emira is just an Evora rebadged...good car, but ancient. Ferrari is turning into ass as fast as they can, McLaren is doing okay, but can't seem to build a car properly and is going to be all V6 hybrids. Lambo's entire lineup is just rebadged Audis now.

Cars are changing a lot - it's not just me. The car market is going to behave a lot like the cell phone market soon.

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I actually think music today is better than in the past, and access to music is a million times better. The music industry seems to have gone the opposite direction as the car industry, in a good way.

do you like edm

[JustinL]

What would make cars interesting to you? Just because the Huracan STO shares a tub and a naturally aspirated high revving V-10 with the R8 doesn't make it less amazing.

[heavyD]

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Isn't BMW like VW now, where basically everything is using one modular architecture?

Almost all automakers are doing this.

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It’s literally closer in size to a current X5 than the E30 you were so eager to compare it to lol

An X5 only takes up 14% more space on the road than this car, where’s an E30 takes up 16% less space.

Maybe bmw should make a 0 series considering they seem incapable of not gaining a new freshman 15 with every generation.

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Apparently. Because EV’s or some nonsense.

Yeah but today's Civic Type R is considerably larger than a 90's Accord. This is the reality of all cars today. I just don't understand beating the dead horse everytime a new car is announced.

[90_Shelby]

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We've been over this before... There are lots of awesome cars being built right now. From cheap sports cars like the GR86, to GT4, Boxster spyders, Manual transmission supra, Lotus has the new Emira platform. McLaren, Lambo, Ferrari are all at the top of their supercar game. Porsche is stuffing the GT3 engine in the GT4RS and the new GT3RS is the most bananas street legal track car to come out for a while. Konigsegg continues to do crazy things at the extreme end of the market. What exactly are you looking for in a car that you can't find?

You're just getting old dude and don't like cars as much as you used to

Until the ultimate Buster build goes into production, everything else will remain builder grade trash.

https://www.hoonigan.com/collections...project-reveal

[Buster]

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What would make cars interesting to you? Just because the Huracan STO shares a tub and a naturally aspirated high revving V-10 with the R8 doesn't make it less amazing.

It doesn't make it less amazing, just less special.

What I would like is less weight and less focus on climate change.

[BavarianBeast]

How is it that BMW has forgotten how to design a front grille?

Decades of timeless designs and now these shenanigans.