Israel at war on surprise attack.

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Read the link msommers sent. Fairly good overview of modern day listed terrorist organizations

Yeah, but who made the list? It's go to be the jews, they control the entire world.

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Surprised the Truckers aren't on there.

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From whose perspective?

Once you understand that there are two opposing narratives, neither of which are correct, from two opposing Governments, you'll realize that you're a patsy for believing one of them.

False equivalence.

Whataboutism.

Only those with limited critical thinking capacities believe that you can't come up conclusions on issues. It's not elevated to claim that everyone must have a valid perspective. It's lazy, immature thinking. Not to mention how the wokies think.

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Jibber jabber has family in Egypt whos afraid of the jews attacking them. It's clear where his stance comes from. In your case, your pearl clutching views are clear.

Is it just the Palestinians you pretend to care about? How about the mass murder of Ukrainians by Russia? How about the 24 school kids recently kidnapped? How many other conflicts in ethiopa, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Somalia, Libya, the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar, Colombia, and Mali do you care about?

Let me guess... You'll ignore the first nations kids without clean water in Canada as well?

I'm happy you posted this - not just because you misunderstand my position so much but because I do think a lot of conflicts are completely ignored because our Western Propaganda machine tells most of us what to care about.

To summarize my position on this conflict, I'll reiterate this:

It's hilarious how tribal everyone is. Israel is right...and wrong. Palestinians are right...and wrong.

Until people accept that both sides have rights but also can't terrorize the other, this conflict will never be resolved.

I'm not pro-Palestine nor pro-Israel. I'm not anti-Palestinian nor anti-Israeli. I'm anti-terrorism but informed enough to recognize that both sides are culprits of such (there's no shortage of war crimes and encroachment of peace agreements by both sides, for those willing to do a little research).

What Hamas is to Israelis, the ultra-Right Nationalist ultra-Orthodox parties are to the Palestinians.

As far as other worldwide conflicts, I do make an active attempt to stay informed of them. I take an interest because I've traveled to most of the countries and still have friends living or working in most of them, including a lot of military/private security.

Since I'm retired I have the time to follow the conflicts but I understand that most people don't. Most of the conflicts are not local but rather geopolitical and proxy wars, caused or encouraged by global powers like the US/UK, China, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Saudi, etc. It's hard to get information about what's going on, though I still receive the occasional private intelligence bulletins from friends and try to read books that explain the underlying history which is often a huge part of it.

For those with the time, I'd recommend setting up Google Alerts - best way to receive any actual public reporting since it hardly enters the general news flow. For those with less time, I'd highly recommend the Cognitive Dissidents and Red Line podcasts. Conflicted can be alright too, but I'm not a big fan of the hosts.

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Religion isn't a perspective...
You either follow it or you don't?
Read the link msommers sent. Fairly good overview of modern day listed terrorist organizations

We were talking about terrorism. And yes, religion goes along with it but so do economic interests. I'd say the economic interests have a larger role to play, actually.

The issue with the list of "modern day terrorist organizations" is they're from one perspective. When a US Contractor burns an Afghani family's poppy field that was their livelihood, who's the terrorist? When the Saudis drop Western bombs on school buses and weddings in Yemen because of bad intel, who are the terrorists? When villages in Africa are bulldozed by Dictators propped up by Western Governments to make way for a placer mine to export materials we need, who are the terrorists? When Israelis take down an entire apartment complex full of families to kill a couple high-level Hamas members, who are the terrorists? When the CIA incites civil conflicts, where thousands of civilians die, all to insert a leader friendly to Western interests, who is the terrorist?

They're all terrorism by definition - so who makes the "official" naughty and nice list?

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False equivalence.

Whataboutism.

Only those with limited critical thinking capacities believe that you can't come up conclusions on issues. It's not elevated to claim that everyone must have a valid perspective. It's lazy, immature thinking. Not to mention how the wokies think.

Yes, it's whataboutism. That's how conflicts need to be considered. You think about each side and what has happened to cause the conflict. That's how you come up with a resolution to the conflict. Taking a myopic view is idiotic and counter-productive.

It's crazy I used to think you were one of the more intelligent Beyonders. You either bumped your head or did mushrooms while watching Rebel News and brainwashed yourself.

Hilarious you're calling my thinking lazy and immature when it's clear you're not thinking at all.

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yea bro, I applied and after a grueling interview process i got hired! Some other terrorist groups like the United States and Israel tried to pouch me but they couldn't offer the same package.

You out of all people should know the concept of media control giving your stance on covid but in this case you have a hatred for a religion that has nothing to do with this war.

Media Control?? The Videos I linked are straight from the Hamas Leaders themselves, and the Hamas Charter. Are you that stupid? The evidence I provided is direct, and not my own added opinion, and is straight from Hamas themselves who base their hatred and violence based on Religion and the hatred of those not part of the Ummah.

I don't hate Islam because of Media control. Islam's most trusted sources (Koran, Hadith, Sira) provide that themselves. Why do you like to shift blame away from your religion? Are you that embarrassed for it? Well, you should be when his fake God says Muhammad is the Perfect Role Model for mankind. You don't like that your prophet is a murdering, raping, torturing, stealing, lying Pedophile? Then stay away from Islam.

Oh no, I posted an image your evil psycho Pedophile fake prophet.

Such important work that he tasked his child bride to do. Apparently he always had semen stains all over his clothes.

I asked `Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. " - Sahih Bukhari 230

Muslim's God is greater than the rest. Allahu akbar, right?

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I think you are needed now.

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What Hamas is to Israelis, the ultra-Right Nationalist ultra-Orthodox parties are to the Palestinians.

Wrong.

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I'm happy you posted this - not just because you misunderstand my position so much but because I do think a lot of conflicts are completely ignored because our Western Propaganda machine tells most of us what to care about.

To summarize my position on this conflict, I'll reiterate this:



I'm not pro-Palestine nor pro-Israel. I'm not anti-Palestinian nor anti-Israeli. I'm anti-terrorism but informed enough to recognize that both sides are culprits of such (there's no shortage of war crimes and encroachment of peace agreements by both sides, for those willing to do a little research).

What Hamas is to Israelis, the ultra-Right Nationalist ultra-Orthodox parties are to the Palestinians.

As far as other worldwide conflicts, I do make an active attempt to stay informed of them. I take an interest because I've traveled to most of the countries and still have friends living or working in most of them, including a lot of military/private security.

Since I'm retired I have the time to follow the conflicts but I understand that most people don't. Most of the conflicts are not local but rather geopolitical and proxy wars, caused or encouraged by global powers like the US/UK, China, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Saudi, etc. It's hard to get information about what's going on, though I still receive the occasional private intelligence bulletins from friends and try to read books that explain the underlying history which is often a huge part of it.

For those with the time, I'd recommend setting up Google Alerts - best way to receive any actual public reporting since it hardly enters the general news flow. For those with less time, I'd highly recommend the Cognitive Dissidents and Red Line podcasts. Conflicted can be alright too, but I'm not a big fan of the hosts.




We were talking about terrorism. And yes, religion goes along with it but so do economic interests. I'd say the economic interests have a larger role to play, actually.

The issue with the list of "modern day terrorist organizations" is they're from one perspective. When a US Contractor burns an Afghani family's poppy field that was their livelihood, who's the terrorist? When the Saudis drop Western bombs on school buses and weddings in Yemen because of bad intel, who are the terrorists? When villages in Africa are bulldozed by Dictators propped up by Western Governments to make way for a placer mine to export materials we need, who are the terrorists? When Israelis take down an entire apartment complex full of families to kill a couple high-level Hamas members, who are the terrorists? When the CIA incites civil conflicts, where thousands of civilians die, all to insert a leader friendly to Western interests, who is the terrorist?

They're all terrorism by definition - so who makes the "official" naughty and nice list?



Yes, it's whataboutism. That's how conflicts need to be considered. You think about each side and what has happened to cause the conflict. That's how you come up with a resolution to the conflict. Taking a myopic view is idiotic and counter-productive.

It's crazy I used to think you were one of the more intelligent Beyonders. You either bumped your head or did mushrooms while watching Rebel News and brainwashed yourself.

Hilarious you're calling my thinking lazy and immature when it's clear you're not thinking at all.

You're very knowledgeable! Pretty cool

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The whole Israel is evil thing is maybe the most hilarious sacred cow yet

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https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/featur...s-water-supply

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“yOu CaNt Do tHaT”

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They're ruining such a nice place to live

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https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/featur...s-water-supply

Making gaza uninhabitable for 100 years will be a benefit for everyone. Plenty of land elsewhere in the Arab world.

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Wrong.

If I'm so wrong then why has the US started sanctioning them like terror groups?

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-...co-2024-02-01/


I picture you as the kind of guy who's terrified to leave the safety of an all-inclusive resort but still considers himself knowledgeable about foreign places.

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If I'm so wrong then why has the US started sanctioning them like terror groups?

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-...co-2024-02-01/


I picture you as the kind of guy who's terrified to leave the safety of an all-inclusive resort but still considers himself knowledgeable about foreign places.

You are using false equivalence and red herrings.

Make a point about settlers. Make a point about Biden. There are many valid points to be made.

There is no need to try to make it equivalent. Because they're not. So you're wrong. It just damages your credibility... Which is rather tenuous already.

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Looks like you found a list of words from a High School debate club to throw around when you realize you have no actual argument to make.

Oh, am I gaslighting you now?

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You are using false equivalence and red herrings.

Make a point about settlers. Make a point about Biden. There are many valid points to be made.

There is no need to try to make it equivalent. Because they're not. So you're wrong. It just damages your credibility... Which is rather tenuous already.

How are you questioning anybodys credibility when you have no actual direct or indirect experience about anything in the middle east.

You don't think for yourself and allow western media to tell you what to think.

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Left eating itself again.

Minister sorry for 'crappy piece of land' remark that angered pro-Palestinian groups
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/minister-sorry...oups-1.6754507

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I think it would be pretty appropriate for all local and provincial politicians to refrain from making remarks about situations outside of Canada. It's so far outside thier scope that it should not be on thier agendas at all.

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The conflict will never end if the towns of Red Deer or Prince Albert don’t call for ceasefires.