BCE cuts spending plans in face of gov't policy to share infrastructure

[killramos]

Sounds like a slam dunk for starting up a new telecom company if they are so profitable.

Dewit.

[XylathaneGTR]

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I'm generally against Crown Enterprise but at this point, I'd be totally fine with the Gov't taking over responsibility for telecommunication infrastructure given taxpayers end up paying for a lot of it through Government grants and then again through ridiculous bills for shitty service.

It brings me great joy when a guy with a "Trudao" avatar posts something like this.

[kertejud2]

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As someone who lived rural just an hour outside of Calgary who could not get any service even until Starlink launched and I could receive calls over the internet while at home, I will say the government is appeasing specific voter/ethnic bases to look good while doing nothing for the majority...

I will happily rely on corporate costs long before government control for my service.

How would government investing in broadband affect your service if you didn't have anything until Starlink?

Your options now are seemingly nothing, or Starlink. Government "controls" the infrastructure build to provide access and allows multiple providers use it, then you'd have those options, plus Starlink.

[tirebob]

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How would government investing in broadband affect your service if you didn't have anything until Starlink?

Your options now are seemingly nothing, or Starlink. Government "controls" the infrastructure build to provide access and allows multiple providers use it, then you'd have those options, plus Starlink.

I am talking about the government bragging about investing in us rural livers for cell coverage and/or internet, but actually doing nothing for most of us... Corporate came out with an answer that has worked better than anything government could do ala Elon Musk seeing a need and finding a way. Government interference = useless tits at the trough.

[kertejud2]

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I am talking about the government bragging about investing in us rural livers for cell coverage and/or internet, but actually doing nothing for most of us... Corporate came out with an answer that has worked better than anything government could do ala Elon Musk seeing a need and finding a way. Government interference = useless tits at the trough.

If the government is the one providing alternate infrastructure to places that don't have it, what is the interference?

If the option goes from Starlink or nothing, to Starlink or something, what interference occurred?

[ExtraSlow]

are you suggesting the new government telco would provider service ONLY where no existing commercial option exists, and avoid all the cities and towns? or am I misunderstanding you?

[arcticcat522]

In using your referance above, starlink is less likely to better their service because Govenment is mandating the share there competitive advantage with others who haven't needed to shoulder the same growing pains(costs) Less government is best government

[tirebob]

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If the government is the one providing alternate infrastructure to places that don't have it, what is the interference?

If the option goes from Starlink or nothing, to Starlink or something, what interference occurred?

Are you being deliberately obtuse or really don't understand? I can't tell anymore but I know better than to continue being a fly hitting the window over and over.

[kertejud2]

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are you suggesting the new government telco would provider service ONLY where no existing commercial option exists, and avoid all the cities and towns? or am I misunderstanding you?

I'm not suggesting a government telco provide service at all. I'm suggesting they provide the infrastructure, as that is where the entry barrier is for both service and competition.

[killramos]

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Are you being deliberately obtuse or really don't understand? I can't tell anymore but I know better than to continue being a fly hitting the window over and over.

First Kert experience?

[Buster]

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First Kert experience?

lol.

Kert is a fucking ritard.

[kertejud2]

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Are you being deliberately obtuse or really don't understand? I can't tell anymore but I know better than to continue being a fly hitting the window over and over.

What aren't you undertanding? You seem to be equating potentially getting an alternative source to service as interference in service. Why?

[tirebob]

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First Kert experience?

Busy season... My tired brain tricks me into thinking people might be trying to be genuine rather than just being intentionally contrary.

[ShermanEF9]

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The Government spent $5500 per resident in Nunavut. It must have helped some Contractors.

Taxes being used to benefit people!? Isn't that what we want them to be used for?

How dare any for profit worker make money off of us!

I guess the data transfer across the entire country just kind of happens with no investment... right?

[Buster]

I think there's a word for the mechanism that allows supply to meet demand... Is escaping me.

[ExtraSlow]

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I think there's a word for the mechanism that allows supply to meet demand... Is escaping me.

Hentai.

[kertejud2]

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I think there's a word for the mechanism that allows supply to meet demand... Is escaping me.

Sounds interesting. I’m assuming we build roads or sewer pipes or water pipes based on this mechanism?

[Thaco]

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I think there's a word for the mechanism that allows supply to meet demand... Is escaping me.

that term is government funding, we know the big corps wont invest in themselves, they have big pockets to fill.

[davidI]

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Sounds like a slam dunk for starting up a new telecom company if they are so profitable.

Dewit.

The Government protects the big 3 so hard it hurts. There's a reason no big entrants have come to Canada and the small ones who have tried have generally failed.

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It brings me great joy when a guy with a "Trudao" avatar posts something like this.

See above. They've already basically socialized it, only in the worst possible way where they both pump in taxpayer dollars and let a "private" oligopoly stuff their pockets.

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I am talking about the government bragging about investing in us rural livers for cell coverage and/or internet, but actually doing nothing for most of us... Corporate came out with an answer that has worked better than anything government could do ala Elon Musk seeing a need and finding a way. Government interference = useless tits at the trough.

They already do interfere but not in a good way (although shared infrastructure has worked well in other markets - not sure how good the GoC legislation is, though). And yea, their investment is bogus. At the same time, rural communities would never be served by the private market, other than for high cost, so it needs to be regulated somehow

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Taxes being used to benefit people!? Isn't that what we want them to be used for?

How dare any for profit worker make money off of us!

I guess the data transfer across the entire country just kind of happens with no investment... right?

$5500 per person (not household) could buy 5 years of Starlink for every single resident which means 20 years for a household of 4. It's not spending the money so much as to how efficiently (err, inefficiently) it was spent.

[Buster]

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Sounds interesting. I’m assuming we build roads or sewer pipes or water pipes based on this mechanism?

Yes. We do.