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Mask wearing doesn't save you. It saves others.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not wearing a mask is asking for more economic downfall.
Just to add to the discussion. Teaching is also very visual on the face of the teacher. Im not sure how it would work with face coverings.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There was a case a long time ago in the UK that a teacher wanted to cover her face with religious covering. This caused a huge problem, I remember talking to another teacher of that same faith who was against the face covering. He explained a lot of the teaching and control of the class room is very visual based on the teachers face.
So with Covid, I am curious how much of the teaching is affected if teachers must cover their face.
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The latest MSM fear narrative is a complete joke. Do not trust anything coming out of main stream news.
Dr. Ron Paul:
the “spike” that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.
Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a “Covid-19 death” even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.
In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the “spike” in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.
An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent “spike” consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?
We do know that based on this “spike” the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?
Doesn’t it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced “delayed” reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of “experts” announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?
Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party’s national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those “anomalies” were repeated throughout the state.
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/july/20/big-holes-in-the-covid-spike-narrative/
AFAIK we don't know much. However considering how little the school board CAN provide for us, unless the Ab Gov provides it to the boards, I suspect it will fall on the teachers personal account. We already pay for a lot of the classroom stuff out of pocket.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Personally I don't think anyone knows, especially not in RVS, so anything is speculation unless someone is in a very close position to the decision making or the CBE is ahead of RVS (for once).
Cos...
It looks like things are getting bad again around us. Alberta is back over 1000 cases and BC is reporting they could be getting another huge spike in cases.
Thats the part so many people dont see, our health is numero uno but so is our economy. I would think a lot of business that survived round 1 are on life support now so if round 2 comes i really cant see how they will survive.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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This is assuming you HAVE covid. If you don't have it, mask use won't have any affect. As I've mentioned, I DGAF, mandate mask use and you'll see people using masks jump like crazy. I'm just curious now with peoples attitude toward covid, how accessible testing is, and the newer information saying asymptomatic transmission is unlikely, is there still a big benefit to mask use? I suppose it is best to err on the side of caution for the sake of the economy, still curious though.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That's the issue at hand. You DON'T know if you have it.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Where have everyone been? There is 3-5 days infectious period before symptoms shows... if at all. Sometimes, I have a feeling of talking to a wall or people just tunes out stuff they don't want to hear.
Until those $1 15min tests are common place, nobody knows.
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I believe he's sporting the argument that asymptomatic transmission to others is low or negligible. And, I'm not in a position to say he's wrong. My gut feeling is that it's virtually zero, but I honestly don't know. Unfortunately, I'm convinced that virtually no one actually knows, so here we are yet again with the inconsistent, unclear information.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We are all kind of learning as we go here. Looking back did we need to do a complete shut down? debatable I guess. And maybe in 6 months we will look back and say maybe masks were overkill, but if shit goes sideways with a huge spike and we shutdown again we will look pretty foolish by not using masks the first time.
Personally I am using them in 'confined' spaces like gas stations, or busier places like grocery stores and big box stores like home depot. We had started going out for meals here and there, but with cactus club near my office getting 6 confirmed cases its a good reminder not to be overly comfortable in those situations.
But I also had 50 people over for a pancake breakfast in the backyard and going to have a guys night for the nhl kickoff.
Personally, my close contact circle is going from immediate family by adding close friends months ago to most of my friends again recently.
Well locally there's a few teachers who are taking up 1-1 homeschooling with individual students... The prices and the fact they're rarely posted for more than a day or two before they're full tells me there's a demand.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd bet there's a percentage of parents who won't send kids back due to risk (especially those with family members at high risk) that are incapable of teaching their crotch goblins. An hour per day of "teacher led homeschooling" seems to be a fairly lucrative business to be getting into
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lolwut? Don't want to hear? You literally just deleted the section of my post directly addressing the newer information we are getting, like that asymptomatic transmission is virtually non existent(which apparently you don't want to hear ironically enough.) Or have they backpedaled on this now?
I'm not even making an argument at all. As I mentioned I'm just curious what the real benefits of mask use are? covid is something we are so aware of now, I would fancy a guess people are a lot more likely to self isolate at any sign of symptoms, especially being they can have a sample result in 24 hours and know it isn't a 14 day death sentence any longer. But yes, we had WHO telling us that asymptomatic transmission is not a worry.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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The benefit of masks is not known at this time. But we do know it is some non-trivial amount more than zero.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We also know that the cost of mask use is, essentially, zero.
So the cost:benefit of mask use is approaching infinity. I'll take that every time. And every time I see someone without a mask, I think they are stupid.
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Yes, it's another fumble by WHO if you still hold that view.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/...read-covid-19/
So chalked that up as "they don't know" as a "it doesn't happen."A top World Health Organization official clarified on Tuesday that scientists have not determined yet how frequently people with asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 pass the disease on to others, a day after suggesting that such spread is “very rare.”
The clarification comes after the WHO’s original comments incited strong pushback from outside public health experts, who suggested the agency had erred, or at least miscommunicated, when it said people who didn’t show symptoms were unlikely to spread the virus.
It's very simple, if everyone who is sick that stays home or wear a mask. Where is this outbreak coming from?
https://thehill.com/changing-america...for-most-virus
Echoing sentiments expressed by public health experts nationwide, the majority of the coronavirus is coming from asymptomatic individuals infected with the virus but not exhibiting the telltale signs of COVID-19, says Admiral Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.“When you measure the level of virus in the nasal pharynx of asymptomatic people, compared to people who are symptomatic, there doesn’t seem to be any difference, which means there’s as much virus in the nose of a person who’s asymptomatic as there is in a symptomatic person,” Fauci said.
Just walked into Crossiron for BBT.... mask wearing % definitely less than 30%.
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Very valid point and 100% agreed!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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COUNCIL APPROVES MANDATORY MASKS!
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
Finally