What's with footy fans?

[ExtraSlow]

What's the deal with riots at football matches? Seems to be pretty standard, so much so that they need to keep fans of each team separate?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58892367
Seems so crazy to this sheltered canandian.
@tonytiger55 and anyone else who understands European sports culture, what's the deal?

[Disoblige]

Another thread title that made me think of something else.

[firebane]

[tonytiger55]

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What's the deal with riots at football matches? Seems to be pretty standard, so much so that they need to keep fans of each team separate?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58892367
Seems so crazy to this sheltered canandian.
@tonytiger55 and anyone else who understands European sports culture, what's the deal?

Watch this movie. It will explain it...

[Buster]

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What's the deal with riots at football matches? Seems to be pretty standard, so much so that they need to keep fans of each team separate?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58892367
Seems so crazy to this sheltered canandian.
@tonytiger55 and anyone else who understands European sports culture, what's the deal?

The sport is boring as shit. Makes people frustrated.

[davidI]

I always thought Footy was Australian Football League.

To actually answer the question though, I think Football has always been encouraged as a distraction from the shitty politics here.

There are so many regulations/limitations to personal freedom I also think people have a lot of pent up aggression and angst.

In a lot of regions, the football conflicts have replaced actual fighting conflicts due to the differing regions of the supporters.

I'm sure there's a more historical explanation for all of the hooliganism in the UK for which I'm not aware though.

[riander5]

They tend to kill each other when not separated

[ExtraSlow]

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They tend to kill each other when not separated

But do they overrun the ICU capacity?

In summary from above, Europeans and Brits are incredibly racist I guess. Like worse than North Americans? I did not know that.

[civic_stylez]

Celtic vs Rangers documentaries... hatred at its finest.

[tonytiger55]

Football(soccer) is not just a game. Its a part of your life. Growing up, one can go to the park or any patch of grass. It does not matter who you are, people will join and play. Take your sweater off and it can be used as a goal post marker. You don't need anything else. Even if its just two people playing. A brick wall to kick against will do.
Football matches are played at 3pm on a Saturday. The atmosphere at the matches are electric. You dont just get people singing 'Go flames go'. There are actual songs sung. If a incident happens with a player during the week. By the weekend the opposition may have a hilarious song to wind up the team. Even going to the pub to watch the game, it great tradition. Even to poke fun and have banter.

Last week England played in eastern Europe and the local fans were disrespectful. Now a eastern European team came to Wembley, London. Do you think any of the English firms are not going to fight back?
Peoples roots in the UK(Europe) go a lot deeper. A sense of purpose, belonging and tribalism. Being a former world power and fighting in two world wars will leave its mark in society. If you do not defend your land, society or way of life. It will be taken from you. You have to compete. Someone pushes you, you push back. This gets channelled into different areas of society and in this case its Football..

[Tik-Tok]

Also, alcohol.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Also, alcohol.

Don't be so quick to forget that it's also a solution.

[killramos]

Simple game. Small brain. Hulk smash.

[ExtraSlow]

Singing songs and stuff sounds cute, but why the violence? people get drunk at north American sports and don't riot.

[killramos]

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Singing songs and stuff sounds cute, but why the violence? people get drunk at north American sports and don't riot.

[bjstare]

If there's any place (population) on the earth that has a higher level of arrogant patriotism and inflated sense of self worth than the USA, it's definitely the UK.

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Singing songs and stuff sounds cute, but why the violence? people get drunk at north American sports and don't riot.

Probably has something to do with the fact that diving and drawing penalties is a major factor in winning the game.

[ercchry]

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Singing songs and stuff sounds cute, but why the violence? people get drunk at north American sports and don't riot.

**outside of Vancouver

[littledan]

Where can I watch the european qualifiers? Its showing up as TLN??? is that right? or uefa.tv?? I have DAZN, TSN, Sportsnet...

[flipstah]

lmao I just missed the rumble at the Wembley station

[tonytiger55]

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Singing songs and stuff sounds cute, but why the violence? people get drunk at north American sports and don't riot.

I dont have a complete answer for it. A combination of factors. I would say culture is one of them. What is the atmosphere like in a North American Game vs Arsenal vs Spurs..?
Sports in north American is deemed as entertainment. Football in the UK is not. Its culture, its more than entertainment.

There is a difference between 'Go flames go' and a whole song insulting someone. The songs are not always cute. They can be hostile(& friggin hilarious at times). Its like winding a coil. Its going to snap at some point. Singing 'Go Flames Go' is not going to wind up or start a fight with anyone.
Games in north America seem to be family events. In the UK its mostly men going. In the lower leagues it becomes very tribal.



Also people in the USA people have guns. If you riot or fight with the man next to you. How do you know he does not have a gun? People are not going to riot around women and children. But put a bunch of working class men and alcohol together...you might see fireworks on occasion.

In Canada everyone is agreeable. Its something I have noticed and others who have lived abroad have.
We are all immigrants(unless one is first nation). So a sense of roots, patriotism and belonging is not as deep compared to Europeans. Canadians fought in the world wars. But Canada was not invaded. In the second world war. Polish piliots that escaped were enlisted into the RAF. When the Battle of Britain began the British pilots were up for the fight. But they noticed the Polish Piliots were REALLY up for it. Their homeland was gone. Why would't they be? This gets embedded into the culture, identity. This gets passed on into folklore and children. Big wars don't happen anymore. The modern outlet is football.