Who is getting the COVID-19 Vaccine?

[Buster]

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So spent half the day with doctors again yesterday. Started with my GP and finished with an internal medicine specialist he called in. Still the same prognosis which is to just deal with the symptoms until my body finally adapts. Only thing is now upping the drug game to try and beat these issues back.

The one thing that has struck me though is that every doctor I have been dealing with since getting serious about this, and I am talking ER doc, my GP and two different internal medicine specialists, every one of them says they do not advise mixing vaccinations and if I had spoken to any of them before going in for the second vaxx, they would have said not to do it. That seems to fly in the face of all the "official" advice being given out by the powers that be. While they can't say with certainty that is what triggered my issues after the second vaccination, they all are alluding to it.

thats what they have to say

[RawB8figure]

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So spent half the day with doctors again yesterday. Started with my GP and finished with an internal medicine specialist he called in. Still the same prognosis which is to just deal with the symptoms until my body finally adapts. Only thing is now upping the drug game to try and beat these issues back.

The one thing that has struck me though is that every doctor I have been dealing with since getting serious about this, and I am talking ER doc, my GP and two different internal medicine specialists, every one of them says they do not advise mixing vaccinations and if I had spoken to any of them before going in for the second vaxx, they would have said not to do it. That seems to fly in the face of all the "official" advice being given out by the powers that be. While they can't say with certainty that is what triggered my issues after the second vaccination, they all are alluding to it.

If you are interested you can have a Quantitative score based Antibody Spike Protein Test from the Mayo Clinic. I have started getting this done monthly for the past 3 months to see how my mine has waned. Its pretty surprising.
This is the company I use in Calgary and it takes about 2 week turn around as they need to send samples to Mayo clinic.
https://ichorblood.ca/pages/COVID-19...ody+Testing/14

[ZenOps]

I don't know that Canada actually has physical production capacity (to any reasonable amount in a reasonable amount of time), so anything sold to China has to be as IP.

Its not like China can't use other vaccine recipes from other nations. You have to weigh who actually has rarity and urgency in this situation, the guy who holds the recipe or the guy who can actually produce the final product.

[redline]

dont believe Kenney shit app is going to be there for you to prove your vax status...



what a shit show this gov is

[killramos]

Government employees suck at what they do?

Sacrebleu!

[JfuckinC]

haha what the fuck! how do they not put that on a massive server

[ExtraSlow]

Guys, PDF saved on your phone, or paper printout is the solution. live access to an app that pulls from the server? Hah, no.

[Disoblige]

The line is now paused lol.

[Swank]

I thought it was just for the app, but nope. Ah the debacle thickens.

[ZenOps]

Putin infected, he of course used Sputnik.

[msommers]

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Got a source for the unvaccinated here causing variants? Anything I have seen has been foreign introduction from highly populated/lower quality health care areas. Why waste vaccines on those who don’t want them here/booster shots when we can focus on getting them to areas of the world more likely to cause variants.

You're missing the point: unvaccinated populations are increasing the likelihood of variants developing. mRNA vaccines are only so effective at future-proofing, stress-testing their effectiveness on unknown variants that they weren't designed for is something I want no part of.

For example, AB has a 60% fully vaccinated rate. It's fucking pathetic.

And before you get too excited, yes the rest of the world absolutely needs to get the vaccines they deserve, both from a personal protection standpoint but also to the point I made above.

[finboy]

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You're missing the point: unvaccinated populations are increasing the likelihood of variants developing. mRNA vaccines are only so effective at future-proofing, stress-testing their effectiveness on unknown variants that they weren't designed for is something I want no part of.

For example, AB has a 60% fully vaccinated rate. It's fucking pathetic.

And before you get too excited, yes the rest of the world absolutely needs to get the vaccines they deserve, both from a personal protection standpoint but also to the point I made above.

-We are almost 72% of eligible double vaxed, higher in cities which are more densely populated (calgary is over 80)
-children don’t seem to have any signs of higher risks from any variant, and likely will get access to vaccines in q4/q1 2022
-Canada’s population is so small that the chances of us causing a major mutation are highly unlikely
-variants of concern have not come from anywhere resembling Canada from a population density or socioeconomic perspective

Again, Canada doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of covid, it is highly unlikely we will be a vector of new variants. If you are vaccinated, there really isn’t much reason to concern yourself with other people’s vaccination status.

[redline]

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If you are interested you can have a Quantitative score based Antibody Spike Protein Test from the Mayo Clinic. I have started getting this done monthly for the past 3 months to see how my mine has waned. Its pretty surprising.
This is the company I use in Calgary and it takes about 2 week turn around as they need to send samples to Mayo clinic.
https://ichorblood.ca/pages/COVID-19...ody+Testing/14

So what vax did you get, when did you get it, do you have any other health issues and what does it say?

Doctors have been saying that antibodies are only a part of the story …

[redline]

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-We are almost 72% of eligible double vaxed, higher in cities which are more densely populated (calgary is over 80)
-children don’t seem to have any signs of higher risks from any variant, and likely will get access to vaccines in q4/q1 2022
-Canada’s population is so small that the chances of us causing a major mutation are highly unlikely
-variants of concern have not come from anywhere resembling Canada from a population density or socioeconomic perspective

Again, Canada doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of covid, it is highly unlikely we will be a vector of new variants. If you are vaccinated, there really isn’t much reason to concern yourself with other people’s vaccination status.

1 72% still means 28% are not doing there part. We need 90% vaxxed with delta

2. Not true 25% of hospitalization in us are children ….
3. Please post or repost these studies that prove this
4. please post a study that proves this

5. Canadian travel amd people travel to Canada variants happen amd we need to be prepared, it is a world problem.
6. Other people, or the unvaxxed are my problem when it effects me and my livelihood.

[tonytiger55]

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Again, Canada doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of covid, it is highly unlikely we will be a vector of new variants. If you are vaccinated, there really isn’t much reason to concern yourself with other people’s vaccination status.

I disagree. Canada does matter in the grand scheme of things. Canada is part of the international community. In particular it is one of the advanced nations in the west with free healthcare.
We have to be doing our part as it effects international travel. We do not want to go on a red list. What we do also sets a standard. Helping poorer countries using the Jesus method of giving vaccines is not going to be enough. Poorer countries will be looking at how we take on this as a country. We have advanced health care, good civic order and institutions. Then they will be wanting to use that data to help their own. They do not have the resources to work it out from scratch. This was one of the key things spoke about one of the heath representatives from Nigeria. They don't just need vaccines. They need us to work it out then tell them how to do it.

In terms of landmass our population is low. But in terms of how our population is dense in cities and concentrated areas. It is dense. Look how the 1st, 2nd and 3rd waves spread.
This effects the country as a whole. Or using the analogy I posted earlier. It effects our Canadian ship on the high seas.

[Misterman]

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People think they are libertarians but they're not

And some people try to conflate two different issues as the same.

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I doubt restricting the movement of non vaccinated people will change anything, even if the system is reliable enough to pull it off. All that will do is make the unvaccinated congregate in areas with no restrictions. Businesses that DGAF, each other’s home, where they’ll continue to spread between themselves, and continue to tax the health care system. It’s not like they’ll just stay home alone and stay healthy. Vax passports are a feel good smokescreen that really doesn’t solve much.

Mandatory vaccinations are our only hope. At least the US is pushing for that a little with Biden. That’ll get them closer to the finish line. I doubt Canada has the balls to attempt it.

Is there really not more questioning about whether these vaccines are a smoking gun or not, when we don't really know the true hospital numbers since they count anyone with one dose or within 2 weeks of their 2nd dose as being "Unvaccinated". And when these countries with amazingly high vaccination rates are still seeing swamped hospitals and their numbers have flipped to 80% of hospitalizations being from vaccinated persons. ??

It's a little odd that people don't care to get some context around all this data before formulating such firm opinions.

[Buster]

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And some people try to conflate two different issues as the same.





Is there really not more questioning about whether these vaccines are a smoking gun or not, when we don't really know the true hospital numbers since they count anyone with one dose or within 2 weeks of their 2nd dose as being "Unvaccinated". And when these countries with amazingly high vaccination rates are still seeing swamped hospitals and their numbers have flipped to 80% of hospitalizations being from vaccinated persons. ??

It's a little odd that people don't care to get some context around all this data before formulating such firm opinions.

your moaning about discrimination is certainly not a position supporting a person's liberties.

[mr2mike]

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If you are interested you can have a Quantitative score based Antibody Spike Protein Test from the Mayo Clinic. I have started getting this done monthly for the past 3 months to see how my mine has waned. Its pretty surprising.
This is the company I use in Calgary and it takes about 2 week turn around as they need to send samples to Mayo clinic.
https://ichorblood.ca/pages/COVID-19...ody+Testing/14

What's a ball park cost to have this done?
Troublesome to do?

[Misterman]

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your moaning about discrimination is certainly not a position supporting a person's liberties.

Your conflating of government control and individual business choice is certainly not a position supporting your IQ.

[ThePenIsMightier]

TIL:
Botswana has 80% of hospitalizations are vaccinated persons.