Tesla Motors

[killramos]

To help supe with the marth, Market Cap =/= Value

[ercchry]

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To help supe with the marth, Market Cap =/= Value

You disagreeing with value =/= to the value placed on the company

Love it or hate it, it’s publicly traded. The truest definition of value is what someone is willing to pay for it. Market has dictated this value

[The_Rural_Juror]

props to you pops.

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Legit comments.
1) props to someone who made money. I respect money.
2) props to Tesla for figuring out how to decouple valuation from every traditional automaker metric. The naysayers like me have been conclusively proven wrong about the way this was going to work.

[ExtraSlow]

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To help supe with the marth, Market Cap =/= Value

Unless you are talking about emotional value, I think market cap DOES EQUAL value.

You know I'm always here for you when you want to talk about emotions though bro.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Unless you are talking about emotional value, I think market cap DOES EQUAL value.

You know I'm always here for you when you want to talk about emotions though bro.

I want to talk about emotions.

[killramos]

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You disagreeing with value =/= to the value placed on the company

Love it or hate it, it’s publicly traded. The truest definition of value is what someone is willing to pay for it. Market has dictated this value

What is it you do for a living again? Finance something something? You are forgetting a large piece of the pie.

Consider this some PD for your Sunday lol

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...talization.asp

Enterprise value is market cap in addition to outstanding preferred shares and net debt, this is the correct way to value a company nothing emotional about it. Tesla is not more valuable than the laundry list of companies mentioned, that is unless you ignore a significant portion of those companies valuations.

Marth.

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Unless you are talking about emotional value, I think market cap DOES EQUAL value.

You know I'm always here for you when you want to talk about emotions though bro.

Also no. See above lol

[ExtraSlow]

Debt matters? Fuck don't tell my customers in Texas

[killramos]

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Debt matters? Fuck don't tell my customers in Texas

Without debt your customers would be worth nothing haha

Your customers and half of Calgary.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Why are you guys picking to fight in this thread on the holy day of Sunday?

[ExtraSlow]

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Without debt your customers would be worth nothing haha

Your customers and half of Calgary.

My customers heloc that shit.

[Buster]

Isn't tesla just a tech stock at this point? What is the purpose of comparing to auto companies when Tesla isn't being treated like an auto company?

[killramos]

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Isn't tesla just a tech stock at this point? What is the purpose of comparing to auto companies when Tesla isn't being treated like an auto company?

It makes their shareholders less scared shitless to own their paper, for some reason.

[dirtsniffer]

P/E is 1200.. that's good right?

[killramos]

Am I doing this right?

[ExtraSlow]

@supe did it right.

[The_Rural_Juror]

More
Less questioning errrchmmommy's qualifications
Shalom

[supe]

Ok back to real talk, S&P 500 entry is this week. This is an unprecedented event, this is the largest 'valued' company to ever enter the S&P 500. Around 17% of the float, 130M shares or $80B will have to be scooped up by friday by index funds. That doesn't count tall the funds that benchmark against the S&P. The only thing for sure is volatility will go through the roof this week, particularly friday which is a quad witching day.

Thoughts on where the stock will go? To me thats a HUGE amount of buying demand, but is this priced in?

Its very hard for me to split ways with my stock, but i'm holding 450 calls right now which I'm going to sell at some point this week.

Disclaimer, I got all this info from social media.

@The_Rural_Juror I'm particularly interested in your thoughts.

Oh and just for fun, TSLA is also getting included in the S&P 100 which is replacing... OXY.

[Buster]

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@supe did it right.

I'd rather be lucky than good.

I also wish I was born rich instead of handsome.

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Ok back to real talk, S&P 500 entry is this week. This is an unprecedented event, this is the largest 'valued' company to ever enter the S&P 500. Around 17% of the float, 130M shares or $80B will have to be scooped up by friday by index funds. That doesn't count tall the funds that benchmark against the S&P. The only thing for sure is volatility will go through the roof this week, particularly friday which is a quad witching day.

Thoughts on where the stock will go? To me thats a HUGE amount of buying demand, but is this priced in?

Its very hard for me to split ways with my stock, but i'm holding 450 calls right now which I'm going to sell at some point this week.

Disclaimer, I got all this info from social media.

@The_Rural_Juror I'm particularly interested in your thoughts.

Oh and just for fun, TSLA is also getting included in the S&P 100 which is replacing... OXY.

Are you asking if the market has properly "priced in" anything in Tesla stock?

It's a speculative bubble. Asking for how rational people will react is...interesting.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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@The_Rural_Juror I'm particularly interested in your thoughts.

It doesn't matter what I think at this moment because a lot of people won't care or listen so I will make it brief. I don't see why S&P won't be insane this week. Indexed funds taking ~17% of free float + benchmarked funds taking some number (call it 10%) + a healthy bit of gamma squeeze (adding to my FD bud's options vocab) on the Market Makers - the brilliant 1 day capital raise last week. I have been trying to figure out where my blind spot is on this but haven't been able to come up with anything substantial other than lots of tree shaking. I even went on Zerohedge and OAN.

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I also wish I was born rich instead of handsome.

Are you asking if the market has properly "priced in" anything in Tesla stock?
It's a speculative bubble. Asking for how rational people will react is...interesting.

ABNB, PLTR, GME, are all much more speculative than this in my opinion. And I am not trading in my horse cock for more luck.

[Buster]

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It doesn't matter what I think at this moment because a lot of people won't care or listen so I will make it brief. I don't see why S&P won't be insane this week. Indexed funds taking ~17% of free float + benchmarked funds taking some number (call it 10%) + a healthy bit of gamma squeeze (adding to my FD bud's options vocab) on the Market Makers - the brilliant 1 day capital raise last week. I have been trying to figure out where my blind spot is on this but haven't been able to come up with anything substantial other than lots of tree shaking. I even went on Zerohedge and OAN.



ABNB, PLTR, GME, are all much more speculative than this in my opinion. And I am not trading in my horse cock for more luck.

No shortage of speculative positions out there.