That's the weirdest looking Saturn I've seen in a while.
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I like weird cars, so obviously this gives me a chubby, but yeah what in the fuck?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Neat!
Expensive for a car that may not appreciate, though.
Ok, but does it have shopping cart resistant door panels?*This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
*Resistance not guaranteed in below freezing temperatures
Late 80's/Early 90's Alfa's are really cool. This SZ is a good example.
My first roommate drove a Milano Verde that he swapped to the 24V motor. I knew nothing about them back then, but after driving it completely understood the appeal:
https://www.alfabb.com/threads/24v-m...4/#post-866442
Lots of cool shit on these Milano's - inboard rear brakes, transaxle, 50/50 weight distribution, really designed as a drivers car through and through. Awesome interior as well.
The 164 Q4 is another bad-ass example I'd love to own. Torque biasing up to 100% on each axle, and 3:1 between wheels on the rear axle. really bad ass tech for mid-90's, and even today.
"Q4 uses a completely unique AWD system. The AWD is designed by Steyr - Puch and Alfa, and uses a Viscous coupling, central epicyclic differential and a Torsen LSD at the rear. Further more, the AWD system (Which is called VISCOMATIC) uses parameters from the Motronic, ABS, Steering angle, Throttle and more to decide the torque split between the axles. The Q4's torque split is variable between 0% to 100% on each axle, so it can be totally FWD, or totally RWD depending on road conditions and driver inputs.
The gearbox in the Q4 is designed and built by Getrag, and has 6 speeds + Reverse. The Getrag box has an open differential at the front.
The Torsen LSD at the rear works in the same principle as most other Torsen diffs. It is a 3:1 Torsen TBR (Torque Bias Ratio), and puts out torque to the loaded wheel in the corners."
BaT link if you're interested:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-romeo-164-12/
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tell her I'll pick her up in the vetteOriginally posted by InRich
The X5 i bought earlier this year really is FULLY LOADED though not a single option missing including infrared night driving
I have owned two late 80s/early 90s Alfas and acquired them when new. While some of the engineering was pretty interesting, the build quality was beyond atrocious.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I started buying cars when I was 3 years oldThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My neighbour had a couple, cool but questionable reliability. The SZ is amaze balls.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Dem panel gaps.
Everything I say is satire.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My family owned one in the early 90s. Horrible, horrible car - everything was falling apart.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Even the Rover sedan we replaced it with was more reliable.
The Alfa 75 I owned in the early 90s came "pre-rusted" direct from the factory.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Is this an exaggeration, or was there actual rust on the body at delivery?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I had a 89' Milano QV 3.0
it was a very unique car... De Dion rear linkage, inboard breaks, rear transaxel transmission, torsen beam front suspension
I did basic stuff at the time like a CAI, equal length headers, Stebro exhaust... and then the timing belt imploded at like 40K and as it was an interference engine, it needed to be top down rebuilt.
Italian mechanic rebuilt it but tune'd it up - never had a dyno but did a full rebuild with 93mm and higher compression pistons, balanced it, columbo cams
after all said and done, it was a nice sounding and free reving motor...
but with all Alfa's reliability? I think by the time I was ready for my 3rd transmission.. 4th set of rear calipers, valve tappet jobs every 20k... it was time to park it.
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