They do stop transmission. We just don't know how precisely how effective they are at this.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Immediately sign up my kids - No time to waste!
Probably sign up my kids, maybe not right away - Why rush?
Probably not sign up my kids - Don't see the benefit
I don't have kids, but I like polls.
They do stop transmission. We just don't know how precisely how effective they are at this.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Summary
Vaccinations do:
- reduce your chance of catching covid
- reduce your chance of transmitting covid to someone else if you do catch it
- reduce severity of symptoms
- greatly reduce chance of hospitalization
The math may be slightly different for different age groups, but I think those statements above are true for all age groups and all risk profiles.
I don't think any of the above is controversial, is it?
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All of your "reduce" words should be switched to "greatly reduce".This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Your "greatly reduce" should be substituted with "virtually eliminate".
/controversy
I was using soft (very soft) words on purpose here. But yeah.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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It's amazing to see how many idiots in this world can't comprehend any number between 0 and 1.
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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Not very obviously. Everyone person I know now that has a covid in the last while is a vaxxed person, its no longer just "break through" . My vaxxed wife picked it up from a totally vaxxed group, and spread it to another family that was all vaxxed.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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But we've been snuggled up in restaurants and elbow-elbow with 15,000 people at hockey games for a full two months. If it wasn't radically reducing transmission, we'd likely have the 800k cases that some idiot predicted on TV 19 months ago.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’s fine. It’s more of a but did you die thing now.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Covid infection after the vax makes you superhuman so maybe that was the plan.
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
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Edit. Btw the Ottawa senators say hi.
If you dont have antibodies, and are over 50 all the evidence so far points to the vaccine reducing serious illness and hospitalization, the vax is effective there. But it with this variant is showing the same viral loads and transmission as the unvaxed. A few studies showed the time window be a bit smaller, but not by a whole lot.
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I wish I would have recorded the absolutely ridiculous phone call my wife had with AHS.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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When I got covid ahs phoned me which felt like an interrogation... I asked what i can do to feel better and they said to just stay home. They were useless and i ended up hanging up on them as they were no help.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't doubt that hahaThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yea the vids have always wrecked the older folks altho I don't think 50 is old, that's just 10 years away for me Anyway with monoclonal antibodies for the ballers and new covid pills coming out from Pfizer, it'll be like walking into the pharmacy to grab condoms and lube np. I hope it'll just be endemic and we can move the fk on. I don't think the ppl give a fk about Lrrr and ofc the media isn't reporting anything, massive massive civil unrest all over the world right now.
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
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It was a great summer until fat/unhealthy/old ppl started dying again.
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
That most likey doesn't help, but as my Dr said last week, think of Covid as 5 mile race and we're only 8 feet into it, so our overall knowledge and treatment strategies are only in the infancy stages. He also said some of the people you'd expect it to ravage it doesn't, and then it kills a double vaxxed health nut.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Fair enough. The whole asymptomatic thing is fascinating for sure. Everyone seems to interpret the stats in their own way. Rational or irrational no one wants to be the small % to get fked by anything. 99.7% survival rate so why bother vax? or just vax because this is all so preventable. Idk, going in circles here, hospitals overwhelmed, limited resources blah blahThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Idk the long term effects, no one does. I just know short term and lots of studies into loneliness, my mental health from the lockdown was gonna kill me before the virus. Perhaps that was a blessing in disguise, checked into therapy and sorted that shit out over 3 months. That was very real for me. And then I hear if 70% get 1st dose, everything opens, I gladly first in line to get my 1st and 2nd dose. Gimme them shots. But Here we are now with the threat of Lrrr sooooo what now? lol the longer it drags out the nastier it all becomes. Lots of blame to go around?
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
One thing that has perplexed me, is that government at all levels completely ignored air purification strategies. They threw all that money around over the last 2 years on public building infrastructure and basically none of it went to UV systems for ventilation. All those handouts, why not cover some of the costs for a home uv system, some for public spaces and factories. The government didnt even suggest it to people which seems crazy given how much time we spend indoors in this climate and that covid hangs around in the air as an aerosol.
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Covid doesn't seem to be aerosolized to a degree that it goes through ventilation.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote