then what are you complaining aboutThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I don't give a shit what a private business does. If some of them want to put virtue signaling above profit, then go ahead and try to deny a paying customer because of their personal health data. If their business fails or loses a lot of money then so be it. Capitalism does a great job of levelling the playing field.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The issue in discussion right now, is that it is the GOVERNMENT that is trying to massively overstep. And they're doing it for no additional safety benefit. If a vaccine passport does not solve the issue they are telling us it is for, then we should all be asking why it is they want to burden us with it?
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vaccine passports. Are you even aware what thread you're in right now? You made some weird pivot jump to private business which had no relevance to the discussion at all.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Just don't get one.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
At this point, you don't need one. Just like you don't have to apply for credit cards. You can live your life with cash only.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Business are free to choose to adopt it or not. Except Texas and Florida that outright bans them.
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You walk a fine line between capitalist freedom lover, and communist dimwit.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This is literally the most ignorant response one could expect on this issue. Great idea, just exercise your freedom and don't participate in society or live your life.
Not at all. So long as you are not forced to get one, which is a big distinction.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Deploy your capital thusly: start a restaurant chain that doesn't require vaccine passports. Start an airline that doesn't require vaccine passports.
Unless you think that people have an obligation to allow you to eat at restaurants, go to a bar, fly on a plane. Do you think that? If so, that's very anti freedom lover of you.
You either aren't familiar with this vaccine passport concept, or you are very naive about what the reality of them are in the future if they become reality.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's still unclear what exactly you are whining about. You're just whining.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think its a good idea. We need a centralized medical history system anyway.
I heard in the states they want third parties to handle this. Like WTF you want Walmart to handle your medical history?
Listen to this bullshit, Sounds like a terrible idea.
https://megaphone.link/VMP1541223742
The government wants to put a system in place that limits free travel of it's citizens(a major infringement on charter rights), costs billions of dollars to implement, will create a massive risk to personal information security. And it's all in the name of covid safety, which it does not address at all.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you don't see the issue here which directly opposes values of yours that you have voiced here in the past. Then the problem in this discussion is not me.
They are forcing you to get the passport, then?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I didn't realize the details were out already so we could compare them to the charter of rights. Where can I find the official documents?
You can use some simple logic from over 100 years of government actions to make some guesstimations with a high degree of likelihood. And whether you want to participate in reality or not, it should be a pretty major red flag when a government wants to enact something in the name of safety, that does not do a single thing to address that risk.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So basically you don't know anything about a situation which is also unlikely to be mandatory, and will only limit your ability to cross borders, and maybe get on an airplane (neither of which are rights).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Gotcha.
While I share your concern of abuse and overuse of this system.... at this point it's nothing we or the Feds can do. If you want to go to EU, you need a passport in 2019, in 2021 you need a passport AND vaccine passport. If you want to watch a game in Yankee stadium, you'll need to sign up for Excelsior pass. You can yell til your face is blue and it's not going to change that. The only thing the Fed's can do is to gauge the impact to our tourism and airline industry without such system or will they just let private industry to take over and see what comes of it (think Transunion/Equifax/Visa/Mastercard etc).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The world is slowly turning into a Dark Mirror episode as I swipe my Google alert on my phone about Ramadan Hours just because I read an Al Jazeera article earlier in the day.
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I think I'll re-watch Dark Mirror soon. That show was great.
We will be watching a real time episode here shortly.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote